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  <title>Comments for Don&apos;t Worry - Facebook is Not Going to Expose Your Private Messages to Search</title>
  
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    <published>2009-10-23T15:55:20Z</published>
    <updated>2009-10-23T16:23:30Z</updated>
    <title>Don&apos;t Worry - Facebook is Not Going to Expose Your Private Messages to Search</title>
    <summary>Microsoft announced this week that it has made a deal to include public updates from Facebook in its search engine Bing. Some Facebook users expressed concern that their private activities might be exposed to search. The real story is a little more complex. To put it simply: Facebook is not ever going to knowingly expose...</summary>
    <author>
      <name>Marshall Kirkpatrick</name>
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      <![CDATA[<p><img src="http://www.readwriteweb.com/images/thefacebook.jpg">Microsoft announced this week that it has made a deal to <a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/search_facebook.php">include public updates from Facebook</a> in its search engine Bing.  Some Facebook users expressed concern that their private activities might be exposed to search. The real story is a little more complex.  To put it simply: <strong>Facebook is not ever going to knowingly expose private activities on the site to public search.</strong>  We can say that with as much assurance as we can say almost anything about the internet.</p>

<p>None the less, Facebook <a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/facebook_wants_you_to_be_less_private_-_but_why.php">has a clear agenda</a> to convince you the user to <em>willingly</em> expose more information publicy by changing your privacy settings.  Multiple Facebook execs have told us so when we asked point blank.</p>]]>
      <![CDATA[<p>Facebook believes that sharing is good for the world.  It was founded on making sharing private and secure between friends - so you'd share more - but it hopes in time to make hundreds of millions of people more comfortable sharing publicly.<br />
<center><img src="http://www.readwriteweb.com/images/FBsharing.jpg"></center><br />
Yesterday's dueling announcements that Microsoft's Bing will search both Twitter and Facebook and that Google will search Twitter made it clear that this kind of social information is thought to be a very valuable addition to search.  The premise is that traditional web search, based on linking authority, is valuable - but some searches benefit greatly from displaying additional results prioritized by recency or social proxemity.  </p>

<div class="pullquote">Facebook may someday open large amounts of user data in <em>anonymous aggregate for machine analysis</em>, to hunt for patterns and opportunities socially beneficial and otherwise.  </p><p>That data will be made available to developers, but it's almost certain that consumer search engines won't be able to use it unless in a limited way. <em>Facebook is in no hurry at all to expose data in that way</em> while it's still trying to scale its plaform. </p><p> <strong>Data in anonymous aggregate for machine analysis is different though, right?</strong></div>

<p>As is, searching public activity is good for search users (though many are skeptical), it's good for search engines and it's good for the social networks serving up the data.  </p>

<p>But is it good for social network users that don't want their messages showing up in search results?  That's the wrong question to ask because that's not going to happen.  </p>

<p>Your Facebook profile is private by default.  Your messages and media can't be seen by anyone but your friends.  Some small number of users have chosen to change those settings, some even making everything they do on Facebook publicly visible to the whole world.  Clearly some users would find programatic analysis of their activities anonymized and made available in builk to be a violation of privacy - but many more would not and are all ready wide-open. </p>

<p>That group is probably made up mostly of self-promoters, marketers, overcompensating lonely people and other exhibitionists.  (My profile is public, I fall under the self-promoter category, unfortunately.)</p>

<p>Facebook would appreciate it if you would put yourself in this category, too.  The company believes that <em>sharing</em> leads to <em>understanding</em> between people, empathy and progress towards world peace.  Sharing also provides nice opportunities to advertise.  </p>

<p>Facebook wants to display lots of your information publicly, but it won't shoot itself in the foot by breaking its promise to respect your privacy settings - whatever they may be.  Is it strange that Facebook, now more populous than all but three nations in the world, has such a clear agenda to change the world's culture?  It is certainly something to be aware of.  But Facebook is not going to make your private messages public.</p>]]>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2009://1.16875-comment:164896</id>
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    <title>Comment from r4 on 2009-10-26</title>
    <author>
        <name>r4</name>
        <uri>http://www.dsr4.it</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>I don't see any way to share things with "Everyone". Only way I can do it is to go to the privacy settings and set it there, which makes shared. Which is something that I will absolutely not do.</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-10-26T07:04:32Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2009://1.16875-comment:164878</id>
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    <title>Comment from sa_lil on 2009-10-25</title>
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        <name>sa_lil</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Woah !  </p>

<p>" (Facebook) believes that sharing leads to understanding between people, empathy and progress towards WORLD PEACE. "  </p>

<p>WORLD PEACE? Now that's stretching it. </p>]]>
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    <published>2009-10-26T05:34:01Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2009://1.16875-comment:164694</id>
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    <title>Comment from Fred on 2009-10-24</title>
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        <name>Fred</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>"The company believes that sharing leads to understanding between people, empathy and progress towards world peace."</p>

<p>Bullshit! As if this or any other mega-company cares.</p>

<p>"Sharing also provides nice opportunities to advertise." is all that matters.</p>

<p>It amazes me how many people are fooled by the hype about "sharing" and "collaboration".</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-10-24T16:36:55Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2009://1.16875-comment:164668</id>
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    <title>Comment from Bryan Person on 2009-10-24</title>
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        <name>Bryan Person</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Marshall:</p>

<p>I wasn't able to share status updates with different groups/lists until just now, when I saw your note that that option is only available for users whose profiles are public.</p>

<p>Gotta echo Otto's sentiments here. This seems silly. Why am I not able to keep my profile available to only friends (or friends and friends of friends) and then selectively share particular updates to "everyone" if I so choose?</p>

<p>Are you hearing that setup will change at some point? </p>]]>
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    <published>2009-10-24T13:08:59Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2009://1.16875-comment:164444</id>
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    <title>Comment from industry on 2009-10-23</title>
    <author>
        <name>industry</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>To see the personal information facebook quizzes already reveal, see <a href="http://apps.facebook.com/aclunc_privacy_quiz/" rel="nofollow">http://apps.facebook.com/aclunc_privacy_quiz/</a></p>

<p>Here's a NY Times article on gaining some control back: <a href="http://bit.ly/4qUlmZ" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/4qUlmZ</a></p>]]>
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    <published>2009-10-23T18:44:48Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2009://1.16875-comment:164441</id>
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    <title>Comment from Jesse Stay on 2009-10-23</title>
    <author>
        <name>Jesse Stay</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Marshall, ah - I was wondering if it was something like that. It is a bit of an odd design decision, but from what I've heard they're not quite finished with everything they want to do with privacy yet.</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-10-23T18:22:34Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2009://1.16875-comment:164427</id>
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    <title>Comment from Otto on 2009-10-23</title>
    <author>
        <name>Otto</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Marshall, wait... you have to change the default to make everything visible before you can hide stuff on a per-item basis? **facepalm**  What kind of stupid design decision is that? It's an opt-out only setup... what if I want to opt-in to showing specific items to the public?</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-10-23T17:29:44Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Tom de Grunwald on 2009-10-23</title>
    <author>
        <name>Tom de Grunwald</name>
        <uri></uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Did FB comment on the possibilities opened up with FQL?<br />
eg <a href="http://pjf.id.au/blog/?position=590" rel="nofollow">http://pjf.id.au/blog/?position=590</a></p>]]>
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    <published>2009-10-23T17:11:33Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2009://1.16875-comment:164424</id>
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    <title>Comment from Marshall Kirkpatrick on 2009-10-23</title>
    <author>
        <name>Marshall Kirkpatrick</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>that is an option for people with profiles marked as public</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-10-23T17:07:33Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2009://1.16875-comment:164420</id>
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    <title>Comment from Jesse Stay on 2009-10-23</title>
    <author>
        <name>Jesse Stay</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Otto, I'm not sure it's on yet for everyone.  I created a new account and didn't see it either.  It's something they're gradually rolling out to everyone though, I'm pretty sure.  They've got a lot of things to release and test around privacy still.</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-10-23T16:58:31Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2009://1.16875-comment:164417</id>
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    <title>Comment from Jaan on 2009-10-23</title>
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        <name>Jaan</name>
        <uri>http://www.jaankanellis.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>No more FB walled garden huh?</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-10-23T16:58:02Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2009://1.16875-comment:164419</id>
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    <title>Comment from Otto on 2009-10-23</title>
    <author>
        <name>Otto</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>When I look on Facebook, I don't see that lock icon. I don't see any way to share things with "Everyone". Only way I can do it is to go to the privacy settings and set it there, which makes *everything* shared. Which is something that I will absolutely not do...</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-10-23T16:56:22Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2009://1.16875-comment:164418</id>
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    <title>Comment from Jesse Stay on 2009-10-23</title>
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        <name>Jesse Stay</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Marshall you're on a roll lately - great articles on Facebook!</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-10-23T16:50:51Z</published>
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