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    <published>2009-11-09T09:53:59Z</published>
    <updated>2009-11-09T20:13:56Z</updated>
    <title>5 Years On: ReadWriteWeb&apos;s 2004 Interview With Tim O&apos;Reilly</title>
    <summary><![CDATA[Five years ago I interviewed tech publisher Tim O'Reilly about a new term that his company had just coined: Web 2.0. The first Web 2.0 conference had been held the previous month, October 2004, and O'Reilly had graciously agreed to give an interview to yours truly - &quot;an unknown blogger from New Zealand,&quot; as I...]]></summary>
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      <name>Richard MacManus</name>
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      <![CDATA[<p><img src="http://www.readwriteweb.com/images/web20_conf_logo_04.jpg" />Five years ago <a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/tim_oreilly_int.php">I interviewed tech publisher Tim O'Reilly</a> about a new term that his company had just coined: Web 2.0. The first <a href="http://conferences.oreillynet.com/web2con/">Web 2.0 conference</a> had been held the previous month, October 2004, and O'Reilly had graciously agreed to give an interview to yours truly - &quot;an unknown blogger from New Zealand,&quot; as I put it back then. <font style="float: right; margin-left: 10px;"><script type="text/javascript">
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</script><script type="text/javascript" src="http://tweetmeme.com/i/scripts/button.js"></script></font>The interview ran in a 3-part series (see also <a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/tim_oreilly_int_1.php">part 2</a> and <a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/tim_oreilly_int_2.php">part 3</a>) and covered Web 2.0, new business models, social software and eBooks.</p>
<p>I've always been a big believer in learning from history as we look to the future. So let's re-visit this interview from five years ago and see how prescient the father of Web 2.0 was.</p>]]>
      <![CDATA[<h2>Microsoft and Web 2.0</h2>
<p>In 2004 the leading Web 2.0 companies were Google, Yahoo! and Amazon. But what of the dominant software company of the previous generation, Microsoft? I asked <a href="http://tim.oreilly.com/">Tim O'Reilly</a> back in November 2004 whether Microsoft's core strategy of software lock-in would survive in web 2.0?</p>
<p>O'Reilly argued that Microsoft would have to change: &quot;I think that the business of Microsoft, the company of Microsoft, is going to continue to succeed. But I think the business model of Microsoft is going to have to change.&quot;</p>
<p>This has turned out to be the case. Over the past 5 years, Microsoft has slowly <a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/microsoft_liven.php">rolled out a "software plus services" strategy</a> under the catch-all phrase 'Live.' While the Windows OS and  desktop software such as Office continue to be Microsoft's mainstay products, some of the functionality gradually moved into the cloud - e.g. syncing over devices. Vista, the current generation of Windows, began that transition. In 2009,  Microsoft is even <a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/enterprise/2009/07/hold-your-horses-microsoft-off.php">taking steps to put Office online</a>.</p>
<p><img src="http://static.flickr.com/28/58697220_0f5db5fe00.jpg" /></p>
<p>With the benefit of hindsight, I think O'Reilly nailed it in 2004 with this statement: &quot;Microsoft will continue to dominate on the PC, but the PC is going to be a smaller and smaller part of the entire business.&quot;</p>
<p>The Mobile Web, for one, has taken attention away from Microsoft. Which is where Apple comes in...</p>
<h2>Apple and Web 2.0</h2>
<p>At the inaugural 2004 Web 2.0 Conference, Apple was a no-show. In talking about Apple's position in the Web industry back then, O'Reilly said that &quot;Apple is in a position they've been in a lot of times before. They're like Moses showing the way to the promised land, but they don't actually go there.&quot;</p>
<p>Although Apple never did open up, as O'Reilly foresaw, nevertheless they went on to create the most successful new gadget of the past decade: <a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/iphone_macworld07_keynote.php">the iPhone</a>. Apple also created a thriving <a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/2_billion_downloads_later_the_apple_app_store_is_still_going_strong.php">iPhone app ecosystem</a>. </p>
<p>So in the case of the Mobile Web, Moses (a.k.a. Steve Jobs) actually did lead us to the promised land!</p>
<p><img src="http://farm1.static.flickr.com/166/351979666_a74a2b0e6e.jpg?v=0" /></p>
<h2>Facebook and Data Lock-in</h2>
<p>In 2004 I noted that &quot;a lot of what Web 2.0 is about is users producing content and not just consuming it.&quot; I pointed to O'Reilly's own example at the time: Amazon compared to the Barnes &amp; Noble website. However, I  said that &quot;the other side of that coin [...] is the 'data lock-in' of users, where users may not necessarily have control over their content.&quot; I asked O'Reilly if that was something for users to be concerned about?</p>
<p>O'Reilly replied, in November 2004, that &quot;there are companies that are trying to use data lock-in as a competitive tool - and there will eventually be a recognition that this is a problem.&quot; </p>
<p>This has indeed happened - and data lock-in is nowhere more of a problem than on the world's most popular social network circa 2009, Facebook. Over the past few years we at ReadWriteWeb have written <a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/not_everyone_is_excited_abot_facebook_vanity_urls.php">many articles</a> about Facebook's <a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/how_open_is_facebook_really.php">'walled garden' approach</a> to <a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/facebooks_new_privacy_policies_live_blogging_the_p.php">user data</a>. Users can't take their personal data elsewhere. What's more, there have been <a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/facebook_beacon_apology.php">bungled attempts</a> to use that data for commercial means.</p>
<p><img src="http://farm1.static.flickr.com/82/236170172_96f4a4038b.jpg?v=0" /></p>
<p>Remember that Facebook had <a href="http://www.facebook.com/press/info.php?timeline">just launched in February 2004</a> and was confined to some selected American Universities (Harvard, Stanford, Columbia and Yale). It had yet to reach the 1 million users mark. While O'Reilly couldn't have known that Facebook would turn into the juggernaut it now is, he did accurately predict that data lock-in would become a major issue:</p>
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  <p>&quot;I believe that data lock-in of various kinds is going to be one of the key tools of business advantage in the internet era. I think that as companies realize this, they will figure out how to be evil - so to speak (to use Google's terminology) - and I predict that we will in fact have some major battles in that area.&quot;</p>
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<h2>Conclusion</h2>
<p>It is remarkable how much can change in the Web industry in five years. Back in 2004, Facebook was a baby and Twitter wasn't even a glint in the milkman's eye. Among the  big companies of that time, Apple hadn't yet given birth to the revolutionary iPhone and Microsoft was entering its mid-life crisis.</p>
<p>On reflection, Tim O'Reilly did extremely well in his 2004 predictions - considering how fast the Internet evolves. And I'm <em>still</em> grateful to him for giving an interview to an unknown New Zealand blogger. How times change...</p>
<p><em>Image credits: <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/niallkennedy/58697220/">Niall Kennedy</a>; <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/shht/351979666/">Shht!</a>; <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/alexeckford/236170172/">Alex Eckford</a></em></p>]]>
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    <title>Comment from David on 2009-11-09</title>
    <author>
        <name>David</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Not an unknown blogger now!</p>

<p>Congratulations to Richard and Tim.</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-11-09T16:16:15Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Lawrence @ CRB on 2009-11-09</title>
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        <name>Lawrence @ CRB</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>I really enjoyed reading the article above as it gives a decent summary of the big picture of the last few years. That said, I can't wait for the day to come that Microsoft no longer has such an influence on everything. </p>]]>
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    <published>2009-11-09T14:37:06Z</published>
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