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Amazon, VCs Woo Seattle-area Developers

Written by John Milan / April 27, 2007 3:34 PM / 5 Comments

Two days after wowing Wall Street with earnings handily beating all estimates, Amazon held an event wooing local (Seattle area) web developers and venture capital firms alike. Perhaps its just a coincidence after adding US$7 billion in market capitalization the last two days, but money definitely seems to be following Amazon's investment in Web Services (AWS). Madrona Venture Group, a VC firm in Seattle, helped sponsor the event, with a long list of VCs working the room.

Regardless of whether you use Amazon services, if you are a Web 2.0 company, it makes sense to keep these firms to keep in mind for funding. And if you are using Amazon web services and are looking for money, you might want prepare your elevator pitch and contact one of the below:

Of course, the competition for their attention may be strong, as a full room came to hear a presentation focused mainly on Amazon's developer offerings and what they can do for business owners. One claim repeated several times was that Amazon eliminates 70% of the non-differentiating work for web startups. That means, things like building server farms, maintenance, and any operation that doesn't distinguish you from your competition. 70% strikes me as a bit high, but then my company produces desktop applications so I may not be the best judge. The other 250 people in the room were generally nodding their heads in agreement.

If you're already familiar with the Amazon web services pitch, there wasn't much new in the presentation. However, a question and answer session led by Andy Jassy, Senior VP of AWS, to clarify that Amazon is in fact building a distinct line of operation with its own investments and not using idle capacity sitting around until the next Christmas season, was interesting. True, they have not yet opened up Elastic Cloud Computing, but the servers currently running EC2 are dedicated for that purpose.

Some Take-aways

One participant wondered why Amazon hasn't started its own venture capital arm to make strategic investments in their AWS platform. Then we looked around the room and noticed all the engaged VC representatives and came to the conclusion they didn't need to.

The question of 'What happens if <Big Company> moves in on this space?' is becoming more common, and the big company on everyone's mind in this part of the world (Seattle) is Microsoft. To this, the only thing the AWS folks could do was smile and claim first mover advantages. However Matt McIlwain of Madrona Venture Group mentioned that he had just returned from a Silicon Valley forum where people thought Microsoft simply can't ignore what's happening here much longer. I did hear a rumor that the first Microsoft data center has come online in the last month, and one can only speculate about Google and Akamai, so stay tuned...

Speaking of data centers, there was a question among some attendees about whether Amazon actually owns or leases them. If someone from Amazon would like to clarify this in the comments, that would be appreciated.

Finally, something to watch for. Up to now, most of Amazon's success stories are in the consumer market. Since Amazon runs one of the largest consumer web sites, this makes a certain amount of sense. However, they must have designs on the business market too. While they have the technology, and events like today's certainly show developer interest, it may take a bit more effort to convince corporations their platform is secure enough for enterprise data. Once corporate IT departments begin buying in to Amazon's vision, the other big technology houses will be forced to respond. Given the recent stock market activity on AMZN, that time may come sooner rather than later.

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  1. Regarding Amazon providing VC backing for startups that use their webservices. They'd get more leverage if they invested through existing, established VCs anyway. They can spread their a given investment budget over more startups without having to manage all those relationships.

    Posted by: eas | April 27, 2007 5:14 PM



  2. Although, there has been a plethora of new incubators and established companies like Yahoo and Amazon getting into the VC game they all seem to be looking for potential investments among the same pool of canidates (primarily in the west coast of the U.S.). The outfit that finds a way to expand its reach to a broader group of canidates is going to be the most successful.

    Posted by: eBusiness | April 28, 2007 11:05 PM



  3. Its funny how the game has changed.
    Now, VCs are finding out avenues to reach potential investments.
    And the firms are trying to (kind of) eat the 10x return themselves.

    Posted by: fo.unta.in | April 29, 2007 12:20 AM



  4. @eas - I agree. If Amazon knows one thing its how to scale, and having VCs manage investments scales much better than Amazon managing it all themselves.

    @eBusiness - I believe this was the kickoff for an Amazon road-show. Yes, the West coast is the obvious place to start because of the developer community and the physical location of Amazon itself. However, I wouldn't be surprised if this presentation came to a city near you.

    This presentation, especially the ties with VC, might be more difficult to do outside the US. But I do know that Jeff Barr travels a heck of a lot. You should see the bags under his eyes! :)

    @fo.unta.in - A firm only gets to enjoy that 10x return in investments if they provide useful infrastructure. Amazon has more or less made their case for economies of scale and is simply trying to scale it as rapidly as possible- kind of like their storefront which they scaled as rapidly as possible.

    The question I have this time around is how long until the web services investment is demonstrably profitable. If you recall, it took years for the Amazon consumer store to reach profitability, and Amazon still carries quite a bit of debt with it.

    This time around they may be able to scale faster because of the interest from the developer and VC communities. Then we will all see how much first mover advantage is worth as MS, Google, et al try to catch up.

    Posted by: John Milan | April 29, 2007 8:55 AM



  5. Re: Amazon's road show, they'd do well to come to the Twin Cities, where we have a vibrant developer/Web 2.0 community ... largest Barcamp to date in the U.S. so far, just held: Minnebar ... and a well developed utility computing mindset.

    Posted by: Graeme Thickins | April 30, 2007 7:40 AM



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