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Pierre Omidyar's New Ginx Looks Like a Dud

Written by Marshall Kirkpatrick / February 11, 2009 4:06 PM / 9 Comments

ginxlogo2.jpgRemember that link I shared on Twitter yesterday? What if I told you I had a new tool that would help you find it again...and all it would cost was 1 year of eBay founder Pierre Omidyar's time? That would be insane, would it not?

That's exactly what we saw, though, when we got a sneak peak today at Omidyar's new product Ginx. We wrote about Ginx when PE Hub first caught wind of its funding last month. We hoped it would incorporate all kinds of data-intensive recommendation mystery awesomeness. It might later, but so far it's quite simple and we describe below how you can reproduce most of its functionality without changing your essential workflow and using a new tool.

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The company insisted to us today that it is not a Twitter client, but it's pretty apparent that its first product is just that. It's a web based interface for Twitter that does a couple of things that are pretty cool, but it doesn't take a whole new company to get these things.

  • Ginx prioritizes link sharing through Twitter by extending shortened URLs to their full length, placing a thumbnail from the destination page in your flow of tweets and opening links through a frame that displays the original message and a box to reply above the article being linked to.

  • In addition to a tab for replies, Ginx also offers tabs for messages with links in them and messages with links you've clicked on already - so you can go back and find them.

  • When viewing a user's profile page, you have the option to view a stream of their friends' messages.

  • Click on a #hashtag and you can see a page with just messages containing that tag.

Neat, huh? If this paradigm can be extended out into all kinds of social media sharing, which Ginx's parent company Peer News certainly intends to do though it won't offer any details yet, then that doesn't sound so bad. It will really depend on how good the interface is, because we're not seeing anything wildly innovative here in terms of functionality.

Ginx is in private beta so you can't test it out yet, but if this is the kind of Twitter experience you're looking for, here's what you can do.

First, take 5 minutes to install Greasemonkey - it'll change the way you experience the web.

Then, install this Greasemonkey script and you'll see nested conversations on all Twitter pages.

Next, add this Greasemonkey script and you'll see public replies to any user in the right hand sidebar of their profile page. That's more meaningful than just the messages of everyone they follow - those are the people who they have conversation with.

Now install this script and you'll get shortened URLs extended automatically. Install this one and you'll be able to see relative popularity of the various links via some shortened services.

That's going to take you ten minutes to do. Thanks to the people who put in the time and had the creativity to write those Greasemonkey scripts.

The other features of Ginx just don't seem so revolutionary. There are bookmarking and search services that make it easy enough to recall links. There's a lot of innovation possible in the microblogging and sharing space - but for early adopters at least, there's not much to get excited about yet in Ginx. Maybe they'll come up with something, but our hopes are no longer raised.

Update: We hate to post about Twitter twice in one night, but check out this preview of the new Tweetdeck - a 3rd party Twitter innovator showing how it's done.

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  1. "Install Greasemonkey" is not a reasonable alternative for the vast majority of users, no matter how simplistic the product might seem.

    Posted by: Jeffrey McManus | February 11, 2009 5:25 PM



  2. With those greasemonkey scripts you recommended, I have no need for ginx!

    Posted by: Gavin Posted on FriendFeed   | February 11, 2009 5:28 PM



  3. Jeffrey, I hear ya - but honestly, it's just a browser plug-in and we're talking like 3 clicks and no typing in order to install Greasemonkey and add one of these scripts. That said, I imagine using a whole new Twitter interface might be preferable for some people.

     Posted by: Marshall Kirkpatrick Author Profile Page | February 11, 2009 5:35 PM



  4. Hi Marshall. Are you a chrome or a firefox user? I am wondering if you have the chance to play with he re-tweet feature of feedly mini (release this morning per Sarah's coverage). Just curious to hear how useful you think it is and how you would improve it. Also any progress on the jobwire renaming/not renaming decision?
    Thanks!
    -Edwin

    Posted by: Edwin Khodabakchian | February 11, 2009 5:46 PM



  5. Sorry it has been 48 hours without sleep and my brain is a little slow: Given that you are a greasemonkey fan, you must be a firefox fan! So no excuses not to try feedly! :-)

    Posted by: Edwin Khodabakchian | February 11, 2009 5:47 PM



  6. You may be right -- that with what ginx has now, it's easily duplicated and won't be able to monetize. But let's keep one thing in mind -- it's still in private pre alpha testing. Who knows what else they'll come up with/add in before they open up to the wider Twitter (and non-Twitter?) community. Lastly, the improvements Ginx has made to Twitter are good ones that get at the core drawbacks of the current Twitter interface. Ginx has potential. Let's give Peer News and Omidyar the opportunity to live up to it.

    Posted by: mas2124 | February 11, 2009 9:10 PM



  7. This was already done (TweetNews) using Yahoo! BOSS (and in under 100 lines of open source code).

    http://tweetnews.appspot.com

    Posted by: praveen | February 11, 2009 10:42 PM



  8. WTF, Marshall, is the TweetDeck developer paying you or something?

    Posted by: Grumpy Techs | February 12, 2009 10:21 AM



  9. Grumpy, Tweetdeck isn't paying me directly, but its feature set is super helpful in my everyday work - which does pay my rent.

     Posted by: Marshall Kirkpatrick Author Profile Page | February 12, 2009 10:38 AM



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