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Web 2.0 Expo Giveaway

Written by Richard MacManus / April 5, 2007 2:09 AM / 50 Comments

Read/WriteWeb has 3 passes to Web 2.0 Expo to give away, same as Techcrunch. I have to admit Mr Arrington came up with a pretty cunning means to give away their 3 passes - he's asking for readers to "attack any post published on TechCrunch". This will not only give him constructive feedback, but will increase page views too (as people rifle through the TC archives) ;-)

Well I am not brave enough to ask for people to trash R/WW posts, so I am going to settle for asking you to (ahem) define Web 3.0. C'mon, I know you want to... The 3 most creative and/or witty definitions for Web 3.0 will win a free pass to Web 2.0 Expo, valued at $1,500 each. Put your definition in the comments below - it can be just one line, or more if you like. I'll select the winners Tuesday afternoon PST next week (nb: if you can't make it to the conference, but want to enter anyway, please note that in your comment).

Oh, you want to check the Read/WriteWeb archives for clues? Be my guest:

Web 3.0: When Web Sites Become Web Services
London Mashup: What's Next, Web 3.0?
Web 3.0 = (4C + P + VS)
Web 2.0 Summit Wrap-up

Incidentally I will be at Web 2.0 Expo in a couple of weeks, so I look forward to catching up with R/WW readers there.

UPDATE: The winners have now been announced. Thanks all for your participation.


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  • Web 3.0: The very fine line between web and desktop applications will be dissolved.

    Posted by: Muneeb | April 5, 2007 2:47 AM


  • Web 3.0 is the transformation of the web from a document-delivery platform into an application-based system.

    Posted by: Giorgio Baresi | April 5, 2007 2:49 AM


  • Web 3.0, highly abstract noun:

    1. Term used by Web 2.0 startups to differentiate themselves from other Web 2.0 startups.
    2. Term used by Web 2.0 pundits temporarily bored of writing about Web 2.0 startups.

    Posted by: Seth Wagoner | April 5, 2007 3:49 AM


  • Web 3.0 will represent an evolution of mobile services. Ideas from web 2.0 and the proliferation of location based services will drive web services onto the mobile platform.

    Posted by: Anthony Nemitz | April 5, 2007 3:53 AM


  • You have to laugh at giving tickets away to a Web 2.0 event based on a definition of Web 3.0.

    Web 3.0 is the coming realization that the web doesn't have version numbers.

    Posted by: Paul M. Watson | April 5, 2007 4:41 AM


  • web3.0

    - apps go online and offline and user don't even notice (auto sync)

    - everything on web is easily parsable, microformats. Now I can search for an auto mechanice who lives within 2miles of my zizpcode and has recommendation rating of 4.2 and above

    - When people ask which OS you are running,they mean which browser OS and not the OS of your box.

    - Apps available on mobile. But not because of the hard work of developers of the app but because browsers will make it easy to deliver apps on mobile.

    Posted by: Neeraj Kumar | April 5, 2007 5:03 AM


  • Web 3.0 = standardization of tools to easily sync computer/phone/mp3 device; made easy by MuniFi. We'll see cars reveiving Internet access and have Internet dependent servies.

    Posted by: Patrick Daly | April 5, 2007 5:24 AM


  • Web 3.0 = The freeing of data and subsequently, free data.

    Posted by: Tom Marotta | April 5, 2007 5:39 AM


  • Web 3.0 will be buggy. Better wait for 3.1 or, for nostalgia sake, 3.11.

    Posted by: Sylvain Carle | April 5, 2007 6:36 AM


  • Web 1.0 = web based apps
    Web 2.0 = Web apps with social network features
    Web 3.0 = Web apps with social features that work with offline enterprise apps.

    Don Dodge

    Posted by: Don Dodge | April 5, 2007 6:37 AM


  • Richard,

    Not to be glib, but Web 3.0 = Web 1.0 + Web 2.0.

    Specifically, the combination of the rich client applications that weren't "webified" in the Web 1.0 era (meaning everything but the browser) with the dogmatically web-only applications of Web 2.0 (e.g., salesforce.com, Office 2.0 suites, etc).

    Ray Ozzie calls this "software plus services" and is betting the future of Microsoft on it. Adobe Flex. Google Desktop, Toolbar, Earth. iTunes.

    Web 3.0 is about combining the best of the previous eras' innovations into a hybrid desktop/cloud-based application environment.

    Cheers,
    Charlie

    Posted by: Charlie Wood | April 5, 2007 6:42 AM


  • I'll let you in on a little secret... but you can't tell anyone.
    You see... I'm web 3.0.
    shhhhhh
    Semantic web, right?
    Everything has a label and web 3.0 is just supposed to know?
    I've already started with the labeling. I've tagged 4 grocery stores and an office. I know I'm getting to a slow start, but this label machine is hard to type on.
    I figure once I finally let everyone know that it's me I'll get more funding. It's kinda a grassroots thing right now.

    Posted by: Mike | April 5, 2007 6:55 AM


  • Web 3.0 will be fully realized when all worlds are one as in the alchemical meaning of the Hermetic quote: "As above, So Below"

    Web 3.0 will be fully realized when the microscosm (genetic level of experience) is indistinguishable from the macrocosm (as in Jung's theories of archetypes, the collective unconscious and the Self).

    When the Below (us) is indistinguishable from the Above (the universal and eternal forms underlying all human endeavor) will be the proper arrival of Web 3.0.

    Posted by: Steven Brier | April 5, 2007 7:51 AM


  • # 13

    Web 3.0 is a shift from pure algorithmic search to Social Search, where the web is a universal medium for data, information, and knowledge exchange. It is about taking 1.0 and 2.0 and making something useful and productive where humans are the algorithm and the more diverse and large the participation, the better the experience will become.

    Posted by: Tony Colan | April 5, 2007 8:00 AM


  • pure wild guessing game, so I'll try something different...

    web 3.0 - some sophisticated generic AI will allow real time UI adaptation of websites according to user's surfing behaviour.

    Posted by: Uri L. | April 5, 2007 8:04 AM


  • I think the question can be answered by examining differences between the Web 2.0 and 3.0 conferences.

    Web 2.0 Conference:

    -Tagline: "Discovering the Web's Edge"

    -Presentations by dozens of social networking sites.

    -Online video! Online video! Online video!

    -All the kids either want to be Mark Zuckerberg, Chad Hugo, or Kevin Rose.

    Web 3.0 Conference

    -Tagline: "Resistance is Futile"

    -Presentations by 10^32 Cybernetic Mind-Meld Mechanical Turks, chanting in unison in praise of the Googazon God-King.

    -24/7 Live "coverage" (monitoring) by THE TUBE.

    -All the kids ARE Mark Zuckerberg, Chad Hugo, AND Kevin Rose. (it's a long story...)


    Personally, I just hope there will be some good shwag.

    Posted by: James Levy | April 5, 2007 8:27 AM


  • Web 3.0 is the global electronic brain.

    Anytime, anywhere communication, in any medium, from anyone to anyone, at insignificant cost (locally determined by purchasing power parity).

    For the first time in human history, the best minds, where ever located, can freely interact to resolve seemingly insolvable problems, such as environmental damage, cures for disease, and yes, even nation state disputes, without the intervention of institutions and gatekeepers.

    Posted by: Prof. Dan O'Shea | April 5, 2007 9:11 AM


  • Web 3.0
    Pronunciation: 'web 'thrE 'point 'O
    Etymology: Middle English, from Old English; akin to Old Norse vefr web, Old English wefan to weave

    Function: noun
    : the omniscient <Web 3.0 knows what Web 3.0 means>
    : interwoven data and web services <Web 3.0 saves me so much time and effort>

    Function: adjective
    : state of the art <Our Web Web 3.0 startup>
    : cliché <Our Web 3.0 startup>

    Posted by: Jonas Brandon | April 5, 2007 10:39 AM


  • Web 2.0 freed our data from the silos it was in with APIs, feeds and mashups, but it created new social and identity silos. Web 3.0 will free our identity and social network information in the same way, allowing rapid innovation in social distributed social software. This new generation of distributed social software will allow us to avoid the scaling problems of existing software and will make MySpace and Facebook look like GeoCities and Excite. Privacy and security issues won't get much better, but they won't get much worse.

    Posted by: Ian McKellar | April 5, 2007 11:03 AM


  • "Web 2.0 is dead"
    -Web 3.0

    Posted by: Ben Newhouse | April 5, 2007 11:39 AM


  • It might be helpful to view the various phases of web development from the context of exponential technology, information, and communication proliferation.

    Computers, the first web platforms, html, java, flash, the social web, all became possible only with the necessary hard and soft technological support. Now, even before this thing called Web 2.0 has had a chance to mature, the underlying acceleration is allowing for the ongoing mash-up of emergent semantic, virtualization, geo-spatial, and social technologies, thus enabling the emergence of Web 3.0.

    Web 3.0 is the third stage (out of many) in the ongoing evolution and development of the web. It may be defined as the new structures and behavior made possible by the convergent co-evolution of semantic technologies, dynamic info display (ajax / virtual worlds / the metaverse), emergent social media (rituals and software), and geo-spatial hardware and tagging.

    But the real question is, how long until Web 3.0 makes way for Web 4.0, and so forth. As underlying exponentials continue to open phase space and enable new behavior at a faster and faster rate, won't web development begin to look quite blurry?

    Posted by: Alvis Brigis | April 5, 2007 12:04 PM


  • Web3.0 = Web2.0 + profitable business model

    Posted by: Ben Metcalfe | April 5, 2007 12:48 PM


  • Web 3.0 will complete my sentences. It will think ahead of me. In a sense, it will think for me. For example, if I write "I like..." a web 3.0 app will complete my sentence with "...big butts and I cannot lie."

    I don't know if it is earth shattering, but it helps me be more efficient.

    Posted by: Josh | April 5, 2007 1:10 PM


  • Web3.0 - Annual conference held by David B. Tickets are valued at $1,500.

    Posted by: David B. | April 5, 2007 2:39 PM


  • Well,

    I'm unlikely to win with such a curmudgeonly answer (which is ok as I am speaking ;-) but, web 2.0 = web 3.0 = the web. So, can we now retire the versioning please :-)

    Now, with that out of the way. For all the innovation association with the current phase of the web, two fundamental paradigms have been pretty much unchanged since the beginning of the web.

    1. Browsers are just screen printers (with the ability to fill in forms a bit)
    2. The Search paradigm is still essentially - a. "I want to read about X" b. do keyword search c. select results that may match my needs d. read page(s)

    So, it seems two things are crying out to happen. Browsers have to start doing more than just printing to the screen. This has been discussed in detail at R/W Web before, and the Firefox 3 roadmap suggests that this is the kind of innovation we'll see in the next release of FF. It could be a huge game canger for browsers. Right now we can see this in action with FF extensions like Operator, WebCards and Tails, which pull microformatted metadata out of a page you are reading and provide a UI for doing stuff with that data (showing locations on maps, adding contacts to address books, adding events to calendars (on and offline)) - in essence turning any page with microformatted data into a mashup with no extra effort.

    The other thing that is crying out to happen is for search to make decisions for us. At least assist us in decision making by honing in on a smaller set of possible result. A simple example is http://www.sucks-rocks.com/ Sucks or Rocks - which tries to determine from context whether a reference to something is positive or negative. That's hard and far from exact withthe web as it is. But such services would be essentially trivial if pages contained metadata that stated explicitly this kind information.

    Google's approach to this problem (which is generally the problem of "semantics") is essentially AI. That is, the first - take existing pages and work out what they are saying. This has two advantages - one general - the data is already there, so if they can get it to work it would be tremendous. The other advantage is specific to Google. It is immensely hard, (and quite likely not deeply possible). If it *is* possible, only a handful of organizations have the resources to do it, so its a tremendous competitive advantage to Google. Which may underscore their lack of interest (in comparison with Yahoo! in particular) in microformats,

    The W3Cs approach to this problem is the latter - "Semantic Web" technologies, which has its own problems, starting withthe fact that we have to start the web all over again.


    But, there are also bottom up approaches, most notably microformats, which take the second approach, but without trying to throw the baby of the existing web out with the bathwater of not very semantic markup.

    OK, gone on too long, but it seems in all the excitment (genuine, and I share it) of webapps, social software, and the ubiquitous web, these fundamental paradigms are often overlooked.

    See you april 17 at 130pm in the Design track ;-)

    john

    Posted by: John Allsopp | April 5, 2007 3:45 PM


  • Web 2.0 was about sharing things. Web 3.0 will be about getting things done together.

    Posted by: Paul Dandurand | April 5, 2007 3:55 PM


  • Great answers so far, but I think we can raise the Wit level a bit. Maybe even a bit of snark (did I just say that?).

    Posted by: Richard MacManus | April 5, 2007 4:30 PM


  • Web 3.0 represents digital democracy. The web will represent a large social network of content and users. There will be freedom of that digital content and related processes.

    Applications will further blur the lines between your local desktop and the internet. A perfect example would be the idea of a web-based Photoshop application, allowing you to access your online images and edit them via the powerful tools many of us use on the desktop.

    Posted by: Colin Loretz | April 5, 2007 4:38 PM


  • Web 3.0 - Now with 50% more buzzwords!

    Posted by: Jason | April 5, 2007 4:48 PM


  • Same as #25:

    web 1.0 = web 2.0 = web 3.0, the only problem is buzz words get boring after a while, so gotta keep 'em moving. I predict web 4.0 within 6 months, or at least an incremental 3.1...

    (I know this will win but can't make it to conference)

    Posted by: Mal | April 5, 2007 5:48 PM


  • Web 3.0 - relevant community based shopping for artificial intelligence avatars who use only semantics to fill their mashups on domains like sdfhwhgadzxxxq.com since all the other domains will have been p0wned.

    Posted by: jeff f. | April 6, 2007 12:25 AM


  • Web 3.0 = Web 2.0 + Value Addition for Users + Some Real $$$ For Founders + Independence from Google Adsense

    Web 2.0 is free; stuffed with services which hardly add any value to the users and almost non-existent business models. Web 3.0 should bring to the world a sensible web business model built around value addition to customers and real rewards to founders.

    Posted by: Vikrant Sharma | April 6, 2007 4:17 AM


  • Well, unless some wild new technology apppears on the web horizon that completely alters the direction of things (like an app that can read our thoughts and type them to the screen), then I don't see Web 3.0 being more than just a magnification o the Web 2.0 "craze". There will continue to be an abundance of new Services, API's, mashups, etc. that can be accessed from pretty much any device imaginable. In an attempt to conform to the "less is more" business model, there will appear a lot "more of less".

    "less is more" = "more of less" ... more or less

    The transition of Web 2.0 to Web 3.0 (and all of the the newly labeled Web 3.0 "stuff") will keep web developers and tech marketers happy as there will be an abundance of "stuff" to write about, talk bout and play around with. Simultaneously, this will continue to confuse and scare away the rest of the human population.

    Posted by: Steve Argot | April 6, 2007 8:38 AM


  • Web 3.0- Inevitably the title of a 2014 Tim O'Reilly article on either the convergence of video games, television, movie viewing, and music into a smooth internet-based platform that allows everything digital to not only be viewed via desktop, but the browser, or the fine, tense fibers spun from a spider's ass.

    Alternatively, Web 3.0 will be the codename for a military resurgence funded by open source browser companies and web software providers. However, this heavily VC-funded militia will be no match for the well-trained Spartan's known as "Softies" led by the villianous Gates. Of the original 10,000 VC-militia men, only 300 wealthy hedge funds in the Web 3.0 camp will be left to fend off the "March of the Softies". It won't be until the Flockies, Yahooligans, and Googler Armies enter the fray that William Gates the 3rd will be dethroned.

    This historic battle will go down in history as "Browser Wars 2.0".

    *Note- Would like to enter the contest, but can not personally attend the conference. Will be willing to sacrifice prize to another worthy individual. Personally, I just like winning.

    Posted by: Logan Frederick | April 6, 2007 11:48 PM


  • Warning: This comment is BETA. I reserve the right to change my view at any time without telling you.

    Everyone seems to think that the (near) future of the web is the ability to use your apps offline. I think thats a very narrow view of where the technology is headed. Companies banking on this concept are doomed. Going "off the grid" is going to be a thing of the past for future generations. Eventually, you will always be connected to the cloud (aka "Internet" for you newcomers). For example, the idea of logging into your favorite instant messenger will be passe. You will always be online be able to contact people with streaming video and audio at any time from any where..your car..your phone..your home. The trend in web video, social networking and staying connected to friends and family is just starting. The thirst for people-to-people communications is still mostly unquenched (sorr for the pun). Sites like facebook can draw such a huge audience even though they fail completely in keeping users connected (eg: you only know whats happening when you login).

    Realtime video and audio anytime anywhere with anyone you want is coming. Is it here yet? Sort of..but not in mass consumption, and your local ISP is happier for it. Its really a technical problem and not one thats easily solved. Just imagine if your local ISP was providing fiber to your home for 10% more than what you pay now? Everyone would take advantage of the immense speeds. Video apps and full screen video communication would be everywhere. The problem is ISP's banked on cable and dsl connections, spent millions...no billions to develop the infrastructure. They have since realized that many more people can afford to have high-speed Internet services, or at least are placing a high value on their ability to go online. The last I heard, 1/10th of the world is online.

    Until the technical problem of easily serving full-screen, quality video to every high-speed user is solved, we will continue to see various interesting social networking and video streaming sites (if joost gets out of private beta asap, they may have a fighting chance with p2p idea but there days are numbered imho). Web 3.0 to me is video-driven social networking, video-driven news blogs and user created entertainment, and video-driven email (yep..one day!).

    P.S. I love how every man and his dog is trying to create the next dating site masking as a social networking site!

    Hope you enjoyed my comment!

    Posted by: Mayur | April 7, 2007 1:29 AM


  • Web 3.0: Show me the money.

    Posted by: David Moss | April 7, 2007 7:55 PM


  • It's time to register your new blog: onlineofflineweb.com. Web 3.0 consists of applications based on several new technologies. Syncing application servers (see Joyent's Slingshot for Rails apps as an example, Google Desktop search as another). Social networks will now start becoming a fixture of the environment. I.e., not only are youtube/facebook/etc. important social networks, they're expected (e.g., OS X's Address Book.app lets you add IM network IDs because they are now an expected part of the environment). Finally, web 3.0 is when we start seeing web apps that have compelling enough features and are mature enough to be deployed in corporations.

    Posted by: Andre Stechert | April 7, 2007 10:40 PM


  • Web 3.0 is where your homepage becomes you ...

    Posted by: kaz | April 8, 2007 6:04 AM


  • Web 3.0. Because we couldn't agree on a definition for 2.0.

    Posted by: sameer | April 8, 2007 5:15 PM


  • Web 3.0 : The browser is the OS.

    Posted by: Tyler Morgan | April 8, 2007 7:22 PM


  • Web 3.0: converged and organized digital information produced and consumed by the end-user via on-demand data stream. The user does not risk suffering from neurological damage due to nonsense information overload.

    Posted by: Al F | April 8, 2007 7:50 PM


  • Web 1.0 ‚Äì Centralised Them.
    Web 2.0 – Distributed Us.
    Web 3.0 – Decentralised Me

    Hindsight: Web 1.0 turned into a broadcast medium. It was all about them. A case of industrial age thinking applied to a new landscape. Web 2.0, largely based on an analysis of what worked in Web1.0, is an alignment with TBL’s initial vision of the Web. The Web as connective tissue between us. Platform, participation and conversation. Really it is more than the Web. It is the Internet. It is new practices too. Ultimately it is about connectivity; applying constrains in the form of some sort-of agreed upon standards that make it easier to talk to one another. With new layers of connective wealth come new tools. In Web2.0’s case that allowed new forms of communication. With it associated ‘acceptable’ business models – hence the Google economy.

    Web 1.0 was the first time to show the value of standards, Web 2.0 is teaching us how liberating standards can be. Web 3.0 will reflect on what worked in Web2.0. It will mean more constraints for better communication/connectivity. Improved connectivity will mean revised practice and new business models.

    Therefore Web 3.0 must be about me! It’s about me when I don’t want to participate in the world. It’s about me when I want to have more control of my environment particularly who I let in. When my attention is stretched who/what do I pay attention to and who do I let pay attention to me. It is more effective communication for me!

    When it is about me it means Web 3.0 must be about more semantics in information, but not just anything. Better communication comes from constraints in the vocabularies we use. Micro formats will lead here helping us to understand RDF and the Semantic Web. With more concern over my attention comes a need to manage the flow of information. This is about pushing and pulling information into a flow that accounts for time and context. Market based reputation models applied to information flows become important. Quality of Service (QOS) at the application and economic layer where agents monitor, discover, filter and direct flows on information for me to the devices and front-ends that I use. The very notion of application [Application is a very stand-alone PC world-view. Forget the Web, Desktop, Offline/Online arguments] disappears into a notion components linked by information flows. Atom, the Atom API and semantics, particularly Micro formats initially, are the constraints that will make this happen. Atom features not because of technical merit but by virtue of it’s existing market deployment in a space that most EAI players won’t even consider a market opportunity. Hence Web based components start using Atom API as the dominate Web API – Feed remixing is indicative. Atom will supplant WS* SOA.

    User centric identity takes hold. This extends the idea that everyone has an email address and mobile number, why not manage it for single sign-on and more. Universal Address-book anyone?

    More Market based brokerage business models emerge, earning revenue on the ‘turn’, as we learn more about the true power of AdSense/Adword’s underling business model and realise there are close parallels to the worlds financial markets.

    Reliable vocabularies, user identity and trusted [i.e. user controllable] reputation models, market based brokerage business models all become a necessity as the more decentralized event driven web becomes a reality.

    Web 3.0 – a decentralized asynchronous me.

    Posted by: Robert O'Brien | April 9, 2007 2:56 AM


  • Kind of like 2.0, but with a 3

    And 50% more hype.

    Posted by: Brett | April 9, 2007 2:55 PM


  • Web 3.0 = MollyGoogle.

    I mean, if Web 3.0 happens, someone could create a Drag and Drop utility to create personally tuned schemas that would scrape and present data to my own personal specifications.

    Because it's all about me.

    And API wranglers and DOM hustlers would RULE.

    Off to play with mappyhour, glug, glug.

    Posted by: molly | April 10, 2007 12:11 PM


  • Web 3.0 = MollyGoogle.

    I mean, if Web 3.0 happens, someone could make a Drag and Drop utility to create personally tuned schemas that would scrape and present data to my own personal specifications.

    Because it's all about me.

    And API wranglers and DOM hustlers would RULE.

    Off to play with mappyhour, glug, glug.

    Posted by: molly | April 10, 2007 12:11 PM


  • With Web 3.0 that last comment would have only posted once.

    Posted by: molly | April 10, 2007 12:23 PM


  • Web 2.0 was the Nintendo of the web. Sure Atari had been around for a while, but we needed something more. Your friend came by your house to tell you about a couple of Italians hopping through pipes [Myspace, Facebook, etc] and you shrugged him off. You decide to give it a shot [your girlfriend made you], you're hooked. Everyone and their half cousin is now subscribed to Nintendo Power [TechCrunch]. By this time, if you haven't beaten Contra [tried to start your own company], you might as well go down to Funco Land and trade in your system [get a real job]. As the years go by, rumors start to stir about the next coming of a system so real, so grandiose, that all of the fun you had playing Nintendo will be nothing more than an appetizer for what SUPER Nintendo will bring [you guessed it].

    Web 3.0 will mark the coming of 16-bit graphics, state of the art realism, and enough press to make your mother cry. In other words, it will be something different, yet it will feel so similar to what we've already known. When we look back on Web 3.0, we'll realize how integral it was in the development of web apps yet how simple it will seem to future platforms. Web 3.0 will mark a stepping stone for continued progression in development, but with the circus in motion, Web 4.0 is only a Paperboy's throw away.

    Posted by: Steve | April 10, 2007 4:04 PM


  • My definition is comprised of 3 parts: general framework perception, principle and common tools

    Web 3.0 perception – Making reason out of users content

    Web 3.0 principle ‚Äì database service getting smarter than us. (based on OReilly‚Äôs web 2.0 principle: ‚Äúservice automatically gets better the more people use it‚Ä?).

    Web 3.0 tools: semantic networks, artificial intelligence

    Suggested by Taly Weiss, social psychologist and blog writer of www.trendsspotting.com/blog - ‚Äúa little about us in web 2.0‚Ä?

    Posted by: Taly Weiss | April 10, 2007 4:23 PM


  • The age in which cognitive science (cognitive networks, connections), psychology (understanding user needs) and technology (smart machines, internet as platform) finally meet.

    Posted by: taly weiss | April 10, 2007 5:23 PM


  • UPDATE: The winners have now been announced and so the contest is closed. Thanks all for your participation.

    Posted by: Richard MacManus | April 10, 2007 7:23 PM




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