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    <published>2009-07-18T17:00:27Z</published>
    <updated>2009-07-17T22:25:11Z</updated>
    <title>Who Is Pouring Enterprise Weedkiller and Why?</title>
    <summary>At the Enterprise 2.0 Conference, one question I asked all vendors was about their sales model. Were they relying on grassroots adoption, one click at a time, letting the software do the talking, not employing any sales people? Or did they follow the tried and true model of mixing inside sales (telephone, qualifying, small deals)...</summary>
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      <name>Bernard Lunn</name>
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      <![CDATA[<p><img src="http://www.readwriteweb.com/images/enterprise_weedkiller_jul09a.jpg" width="150" height="132" />At the <a href="http://www.e2conf.com/">Enterprise 2.0 Conference</a>, one question I asked all vendors was about their sales model. Were they relying on grassroots adoption, one click at a time, letting the software do the talking, not employing any sales people? Or did they follow the tried and true model of mixing inside sales (telephone, qualifying, small deals) and big-game hunters who close major deals with the large firms?</p>

<p>A lot of vendors said it was a mix of both, the first model for SMB and the second for enterprise. That makes sense. But some were pure play (i.e. no salespeople employed). Before dismissing this as crazy, think of some of the highly successful companies in this category; Basecamp, Atlassian, and Zoho come to mind. But grassroots adoption flies in the face of the enterprise's need for structure and control. So, some enterprise are pouring weedkiller on it (tip of the hat to <a href="http://www.olivermarks.com/">Oliver Marks</a> for the weedkiller analogy). Presumably, they see these young shoots as weeds and not beautiful flowers or nourishing plants. Why?</p>]]>
      <![CDATA[<h2>Gasp! Our Staff Is Using Facebook to Discuss Business</h2>

<p>This heading was the sort of thing one heard at the conference. It usually meant that the company had not deployed something that was as easy and fun as Facebook and also "enterprise-safe." From merely observing the vendors with stands, there is absolutely no excuse for that. A lot of vendors have collaboration software that is intuitive and functionally rich and that takes care of the usual enterprise concerns about security and control.</p>

<h2>Block IP Address X But Not Y</h2>

<p>Clearly, though, enterprises want to block plenty of sites. In some cases, their reasons seem obscure and unreasonable to the vendors. In some cases, blocking is motivated by serious deficiencies in the vendor's software, most likely something related to security.</p>

<p>In other cases, the enterprise may have chosen its vendor and want to drive adoption of the product. That is a reasonable strategy in some cases. There is great value in network scale with collaboration tools. This tends to favor the top-down strategy: decide on one tool and force it on everyone. That has tended to lead to clunky, expensive, time-sucking disasters in the past. Getting that balance right is tough. The CIO's job is not a simple one.</p>

<p>This will give firms with big sales teams an advantage. Those big firms will acquire the smaller vendors that have traction but cannot scale on their own.</p>

<p>Bootstrapped vendors, aware of that reality, have either remained in the SMB market or chosen a niche. Atlassian, for example, is growing like a weed without any salespeople by focusing on developers (developers being the kind of people who resist anyone telling them what tools to use).</p>

<h2>Overcome Three Objections to Avoid Weedkiller</h2>

<p>According to a <a href="http://www.forrester.com/ER/Press/Release/0,1769,1285,00.html">recent Forrester report</a>, enterprise CIOs are concerned most with these three big issues when considering SaaS:</p>

<ul>
<li>Security 31%,</li>

<li>Total cost 27% (i.e. volume discounts),</li>

<li>Integration 22%,</li>
</ul>

<p>Vendors simply have to address these issues. Any vendor that can't address them shouldn't even be in the business. And any vendor with a solid track record in the enterprise will have reasonably good solutions for all three. Probably not perfect solutions, but we live in an imperfect world.</p>

<h2>Where Is the Internet Scale + Enterprise Safe Sign-On Service?</h2>

<p>In the consumer Internet world, we speak in terms of <a href="http://www.slideshare.net/drock/openid-vs-facebook-connect-vs-friendconnect">OpenID vs. Facebook Connect vs. FriendConnect</a>.</p>

<p>Meanwhile, in a parallel universe, we have the <a href="http://mediaproducts.gartner.com/reprints/ca/160413.html">Magic Quadrant for Enterprise Single Sign-On</a> (ESS).</p>

<p>It is possible that both actually do exist in the same universe and will benefit from each other. If one of the three players in consumer-land would address some of the enterprise's reasonable concerns, the table might tip in their favor. Or maybe an enterprise vendor could convince people that they can be very open and very secure at the same time. Letting the outside world (you know, those pesky customers) into the enterprise is generally a good thing. But keeping out the bad apples is equally critical.</p>

<p><em>(Image: <a href="http://www.forestryimages.org/browse/detail.cfm?imgnum=0016317">James H. Miller</a>.)</em></p>]]>
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    <title>Comment from su deposu on 2010-10-24</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>instance infrastructure and the application are not shared, addressing the confidentiality and performance concerns many organizations have. This approach does carry an infrastructure cost overhead and resulting higher entry-point than our on-premise product.</p>]]>
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    <published>2010-10-25T06:24:26Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2009:/enterprise//9.15514-comment:251197</id>
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    <title>Comment from konteyner on 2010-10-07</title>
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        <name>konteyner</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>An OpenID infrastructure makes this kind of network a reality. VMware now can offer federated identity across a network that may be internal or extend into the cloud.</p>

<p>The TriCipher acquisition also points to VMware's new push to provide security services. It is now offering its own systems to prevent the infection of virtual machines. This is a new area of concern that we should hear more about as apps scale on virtual platforms such as what VMware is now providing.</p>

<p>VMware is extending its capabilities. Virtual machines are becoming a dominant part of the enterprise landscape. It is a logical time for VMware to be as ambitious as it is - even though it does have a few definite blind spots.</p>]]>
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    <published>2010-10-08T06:18:09Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from prefabrik on 2010-09-03</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>i bağlayan bir oy tercihini dile getirmeleri kanaatimizce doğru değil. Sivil toplum kuruluşlarının tüm üyelerini bağlayan bir oy tercihini dile getirmeleri kanaatimizce doğru değildir. Zira, çağdaş demokratik sistemlerde, ister seçimlerde ister referandumlarda olsun, oy kullanmak, sistemin özünü oluşturan, en temel bireysel haktır" dedi.</p>]]>
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    <published>2010-09-03T07:17:39Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Kontör               on 2010-08-28</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In other cases, the enterprise may have chosen its vendor and want to drive adoption of the product. That is a reasonable strategy in some cases. There is great value in network scale with collaboration tools. This tends to favor the top-down strategy: decide on one tool and force it on everyone. That has tended to lead to clunky, expensive, time-sucking disasters in the past. Getting that balance right is tough. The CIO's job is not a simple one. <a href="http://vodafonekontoral.com" rel="nofollow">http://vodafonekontoral.com</a></p>]]>
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    <published>2010-08-28T12:39:42Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Turkcell kontör  on 2010-08-28</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Vendors simply have to address these issues. Any vendor that can't address them shouldn't even be in the business. And any vendor with a solid track record in the enterprise will have reasonably good solutions for all three. Probably not perfect solutions, but we live in an imperfect world. <a href="http://aveakontoral.com" rel="nofollow">http://aveakontoral.com</a>                           </p>]]>
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    <published>2010-08-28T12:38:38Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Cep telefonu  on 2010-08-28</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Clearly, though, enterprises want to block plenty of sites. In some cases, their reasons seem obscure and unreasonable to the vendors. In some cases, blocking is motivated by serious deficiencies in the vendor's software, most likely something related to security. <a href="http://nokiaceptelefonu.net" rel="nofollow">http://nokiaceptelefonu.net</a></p>]]>
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    <published>2010-08-28T12:35:27Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from sex shop  on 2010-08-28</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>      This heading was the sort of thing one heard at the conference. It usually meant that the company had not deployed something that was as easy and fun as Facebook and also "enterprise-safe." From merely observing the vendors with stands, there is absolutely no excuse for that. A lot of vendors have collaboration software that is intuitive and functionally rich and that takes care of the usual enterprise concerns about security and control.http://erotikderginiz.com        </p>]]>
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    <published>2010-08-28T12:34:26Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from şişme bebek on 2010-08-23</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>I have been looking at söve CubeTree, the enterprise social network, söve and it is very promising</p>]]>
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    <published>2010-08-23T14:36:28Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from erotik shop on 2010-04-27</title>
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        <name>erotik shop</name>
        <uri>http://www.sexshopa.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>I have been looking at söve CubeTree, the enterprise social network, söve and it is very promising</p>]]>
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    <published>2010-04-27T12:10:49Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Flowers on 2009-07-20</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Interesting post..</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-07-21T02:37:21Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from söve on 2009-07-19</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>I have been looking at söve CubeTree, the enterprise social network, söve and it is very promising. </p>]]>
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    <published>2009-07-19T14:08:03Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Jean-Michel Decombe on 2009-07-18</title>
    <author>
        <name>Jean-Michel Decombe</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>I have been looking at CubeTree, the enterprise social network, and it is very promising. <a href="http://www.cubetree.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.cubetree.com</a> (Note: I am not affiliated to them in any way.)</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-07-18T18:10:18Z</published>
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