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    <published>2009-05-11T11:00:00Z</published>
    <updated>2009-05-10T21:55:50Z</updated>
    <title>GSR Ventures: The China Internet Opportunity (RWS Interview)</title>
    <summary>The Internet started in America, but the big growth in the coming years may come from Asia. We recently interviewed a VC in India. Clearly, it was time to get a perspective from China. So we spoke to Richard Lim, a Partner at GSR Ventures, a China-focused VC fund. Here is why China is a...</summary>
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      <name>Bernard Lunn</name>
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      <![CDATA[<p><img src="http://www.readwriteweb.com/images/gsr_china_may09a.jpg" width="150" height="52" />The Internet started in America, but the big growth in the coming years may come from Asia. We recently interviewed a <a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/readwritestart/2009/04/canaan-partners-india-early-stage-investing-rws-interview.php">VC in India</a>. Clearly, it was time to get a perspective from China. So we spoke to <a href="http://www.gsrventures.cn/en/team/richard.html">Richard Lim</a>, a Partner at <a href="http://www.gsrventures.cn/en/index.html">GSR Ventures</a>, a China-focused VC fund.</p>

<p>Here is why China is a fascinating opportunity for Web technology entrepreneurs: the number of people online in China is more than in the US, yet the revenue from ads and e-commerce is only 10%, compared to 12% in the US. Why? About 50% of users are students, who spend very little. But imagine what will happen when they graduate and start earning money.</p>]]>
      <![CDATA[<h2>Booms and Busts in China</h2>

<p>The VC numbers that get reported tend to be US-centric. So, we were keen to see what the trends look like from China. Here are the headline numbers (all rounds, all sectors):</p>

<ul>
<li>Q1 2008: $1.1 billion in 100 deals,</li>
<li>Q1 2009: $320 million in 32 deals.</li>
</ul>

<p>So, investors in China need strong stomachs! That volatility looks worse than it does in the US. But to put it in perspective, only $1 billion was invested in 2005, so 2009 is likely to be better than 2005, just not as good as the boom in 2008.</p>

<p>Here is the other side of the story: IPOs are alive and well for Chinese companies. Between 2004 and 2008, the number of VC-backed ventures that exited via an IPO with a market cap of over $1 billion were:</p>

<ul>
<li>14 from China,</li>
<li>11 from America.</li>
</ul>

<p>So, let's hope Fred Wilson is right that the <a href="http://www.avc.com/a_vc/2009/05/the-end-of-the-ipo-drought-is-coming.html">IPO drought in America is nearly over</a>. (I think he is right.)</p>

<h2>Background on GSR Ventures</h2>

<p>GSR Ventures invests primarily in early- and growth-stage technology companies that have substantial operations in China.</p>

<p>GSR currently has about $700 million under management. It has a partnership with Mayfield Fund and has offices in Beijing and Silicon Valley.</p>

<p>First rounds range from $500,000 to $3 million.</p>

<h2>In Which Markets Is GSR Investing?</h2>

<p>GSR Ventures looks for investment opportunities in the following sectors:</p>

<p><strong>1. Consumer Internet.</strong> This is fundamentally a bet on demographics and GDP growth: that students who are currently online will get jobs and spend money online, that more older people will go online, and that the high GDP growth relative to developed economies will create big opportunities.</p>

<p>American consumer Internet companies have so far not been strong in China. Google has less than 25% of the search market there. eBay, Yahoo, and Amazon have not had major success in China. This is also true in some other large markets, such as Korea, Japan, and Russia. This leaves a lot of room for local companies to emerge.</p>

<p><strong>2. Enterprise IT in China.</strong> Richard stressed that this was in the early stages, but he sees opportunity to leap-frog to cloud-based systems.</p>

<p><strong>3. Clean tech.</strong> Unlike the first two, this is a global play. Some Chinese companies have already done well in the electronics systems and components marketplace. Chinese clean-tech ventures can take advantage of lower R&D costs.</p>

<p>The poster child for Chinese clean tech is the electric car company BYD, the one that <a href="http://money.cnn.com/2009/04/13/technology/gunther_electric.fortune/">Warren Buffet invested in</a>.</p>

<h2>Other Sources</h2>

<p>Richard mentioned two other sources for people wanting to dig a bit deeper into the venture scene in China:</p>

<ul>
<li><a href="http://www.zero2ipo.com.cn/en/">Zero2IPO</a>,</li>
<li><a href="http://www.avcj.com/">Asian Venture Capital Journal</a>.</li>
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    <title>Comment from Bill on 2009-05-11</title>
    <author>
        <name>Bill</name>
        <uri>http://www.cnties.com/</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Locking Cnties.com -  B2B of social enterprise and products.</p>

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    <published>2009-05-11T12:26:26Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Tehseen | RechargeYourMind on 2009-05-11</title>
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        <name>Tehseen | RechargeYourMind</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>I am surprised why the VCs are ignoring the smaller asian countries. Given the growth they have, there are some large untapped markets there.</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-05-11T14:28:38Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from ITrush on 2009-05-11</title>
    <author>
        <name>ITrush</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Let's just see what will happen in the coming years..</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-05-11T15:16:09Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from FireBrand on 2009-05-11</title>
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        <name>FireBrand</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>What I found very interesting is the 10% versus 12%...  What the hell does that mean?  10% of what, do what, for what?  No data.</p>

<p>Now the bigger issue, that wasn't talked about here is that US based (probably true for any outside company) web companies, you can not get good ad rates in China.  For example, when AdSense was paying .40 here in the US and some other places in the world.  You were lucky to get .01 from China traffic.  When you looked for ad networksin China, there are a couple, but none seem to deal with US companies, or at least companies who do not speak Chinese...  </p>

<p>So though the market is potentially large in the future, right now it really basically is giving your service away at a loss in China.  Find me a Chinese ad network that will work with a US based company and I will change my opinion, currently it really makes more sense for a US company to turn China off, it's only costing you, and yeah SOMETIME in the future they will start spending, but the massive amount of potential traffic will kill you in the meantime.</p>

<p>Plus none of the usual suspects in payment services even accept Chinese payments.  So you can't even charge them.</p>

<p>Wake up and Smell the Coffee...<br />
</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-05-11T17:27:26Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Bernard Lunn on 2009-05-11</title>
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        <name>Bernard Lunn</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Firebrand, the 10% is actually saying what you are saying, which is that revenue monetization is MUCH lower in China than in America. 10% means that revenue in America is 10x higher than in China. The investors who focus on China assume that gap will narrow in future. My guess is they are right. No debate that there is a gap.</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-05-11T17:41:50Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Ricky on 2009-05-12</title>
    <author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Some Asian countries are developing very fast like china, India, japan. VCs cannot ignore them. There are some large untapped markets. Technology are also increasing. In these country, chances of progress is increasing because they have man power, good technology, good agriculture field, increasing literacy rate also. </p>]]>
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    <published>2009-05-12T10:03:09Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from PC Guru on 2010-04-06</title>
    <author>
        <name>PC Guru</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>@Ricky: You are right about the asian countries like India,Japan, so on. You said that these countries have higher chances of progress because of man power, agri.., literacy,... If you observe this actuarially every country has all these factors. But can you give me 5 unique reasons that differentiate asian countries compared to the others. </p>]]>
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    <published>2010-04-06T09:47:26Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Sesli Sohbet on 2010-07-04</title>
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        <uri>http://www.seslisohbetbk.com/</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>That's it! You will get a custom Bubble Tweet URL that will show you your recording overlaid on the specified Twitter account. A count is kept for how many visits each Bubble Tweet URL gets. Plus, you can create up to three Bubble Tweet videos a day.</p>]]>
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