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    <published>2010-03-09T17:00:00Z</published>
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    <title>New State Law Bumps Colorado Off Amazon&apos;s Affiliate Map</title>
    <summary>Online retailer Amazon has ended all Colorado-based affiliate accounts after a new law passed by the state&apos;s legislature would have forced them to collect and pay state sales taxes. The law, HB 10-1193, states that any affiliate marketer making more than $10,000 for a retailer is declared a legal agent, and a state presence, of...</summary>
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      <![CDATA[<p><img alt="Amazon Colorado" src="http://www.readwriteweb.com/start/images/amazon_colorado_mar10.jpg" width="150" height="116" />Online retailer <a href="http://amazon.com/">Amazon</a> has ended all Colorado-based affiliate accounts after a new law passed by the state's legislature would have forced them to collect and pay state sales taxes. The law, <a href="http://www.leg.state.co.us/CLICS/CLICS2010A/csl.nsf/fsbillcont3/B30F574193882B4B872576A80026BE0C?Open&file=1193_rev.pdf">HB 10-1193</a>, states that any affiliate marketer making more than $10,000 for a retailer is declared a legal agent, and a state presence, of that company. Rather than be forced to pay the state taxes, Amazon has instead side-stepped the law by closing its doors to all affiliates based in Colorado. </p>]]>
      <![CDATA[<p>Residents of the state can still buy from Amazon and can even be referred by affiliates in other states, but the company's affiliates in Colorado are out of luck. In a letter to its affiliates announcing the termination of their accounts on Monday, Amazon decried the new Colorado state law and encouraged affiliates to "express their views" to the General Assembly and to Governor Bill Ritter.</p>

<p>"There is a right way for Colorado to pursue its revenue goals, but this new law is a wrong way," Amazon wrote in a letter to it's affiliates. "As we repeatedly communicated to Colorado legislators, including those who sponsored and supported the new law, we are not opposed to collecting sales tax within a constitutionally-permissible system applied even-handedly. The US Supreme Court has defined what would be constitutional, and if Colorado would repeal the current law or follow the constitutional approach to collection, we would welcome the opportunity to reinstate Colorado-based Associates."</p>

<p><img alt="Gavel" src="http://www.readwriteweb.com/start/images/gavel_mar10.jpg" width="250" height="250" class="alignright" />A court decision in 1992 ruled that online retailers only have to pay state sales taxes to those in which they have a physical presence in, such as with offices or warehouses. Colorado's new law says that affiliates represent a presence in the state, but in reality they are just marketing partners, not part of the company as the law suggests. </p>

<p>Backlash yesterday was largely targeted at the Colorado legislature, and not at Amazon for ending the program. It makes more sense for Amazon to end their affiliate program in Colorado than to be forced to file state taxes, especially since they can still make money from customers in the state. By attempting to collect on taxes from online retailers, Colorado has effectively shot themselves in the foot; Amazon affiliates can no longer make any income which means less income tax for the state to collect. There are other companies through which to run an affiliate account, but why would they want to pay taxes either?</p>

<p>"I should have come out very publicly about this when I first heard about it," writes <a href="http://www.feld.com/wp/archives/2010/03/amazon-fires-its-affiliates-in-colorado-including-me-because-of-colorado-hb-10-1193.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed:+FeldThoughts+(Feld+Thoughts)">investor Brad Feld</a>, himself one of Amazon's discontinued Colorado affiliates. "I expect the Internet Affiliate business in Colorado will completely die within the next thirty days (every company that has an affiliate business will turn off all of their Colorado-based affiliates.)"</p>

<p>The Colorado legislature should have foreseen this outcome - it's not the first time Amazon has been forced to shut down affiliate programs. In July of 2009, Amazon closed off their programs in Rhode Island and North Carolina, and has previously sued over a law passed in New York in 2008. The suit, however, was eventually thrown out and Amazon has since been paying taxes for New York affiliates they feel are too valuable to give up.</p>

<p>The decision in Colorado should make entrepreneurs and small business owners participating in similar affiliate programs in any state nervous, especially those in states with large deficits and small consumer markets. California's budget woes and it's large consumer economy could make a bad combination for Amazon who might be unwilling to give up their valuable affiliate program there if a similar law is enacted. The problem for affiliates in smaller states is that Amazon won't think twice about shutting down their program there, as evidenced by Rhode Island and North Carolina.</p>]]>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2010:/start//7.18621-comment:195436</id>
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    <title>Comment from Michael Sauers on 2010-03-09</title>
    <author>
        <name>Michael Sauers</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>When I signed up for my Amazon.com associates account I lived in Colorado. Three years ago I moved to Nebraska and changed my account information accordingly. Yesterday, Amazon.com canceled my account blaming the Colorado situation. This has happened to others based on the online discussion in the associates site. Has anyone found a solution to this problem?</p>]]>
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    <published>2010-03-09T17:43:43Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2010:/start//7.18621-comment:195456</id>
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    <title>Comment from Dave on 2010-03-09</title>
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        <name>Dave</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Yes, this is a tax-happy state government thing, but in truth online retailers like Amazon should not have a structural 5-10% price advantage if they are selling things to people in a state with sales tax.  It hurts local retailers everywhere.  The playing field should be leveled.  </p>]]>
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    <published>2010-03-09T18:47:59Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2010:/start//7.18621-comment:195475</id>
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    <title>Comment from Morgan on 2010-03-09</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>I love it, personally. The states that hold out against inexorable tax hikes are going to reap the benefits, through more income taxes from affiliates, or just companies locating in their states. Colorado has created a negative tax income with this thing. So far at least, you can't force a company to do business in your state.</p>

<p>Go Amazon</p>]]>
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    <published>2010-03-09T20:22:32Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2010:/start//7.18621-comment:195555</id>
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    <title>Comment from Kevin Matheny on 2010-03-09</title>
    <author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>I want to differ with Brad Feld just a bit. While I am certain that affiliate programs which do not pay state taxes will flee Colorado, there are some programs run by brick-and-mortar retailers with a web presence, who already pay states taxes. Best Buy (for which I work) is one such retailer. </p>]]>
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    <published>2010-03-10T02:41:47Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2010:/start//7.18621-comment:195634</id>
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    <title>Comment from robert viney on 2010-03-09</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Does anyone know if there are work arounds for this like changing where your business is located geographically when you reside in a state where affiliates are banned or signing up to a UK based program like Skimlinks and they sign up to Amazon as the affiliate and pay you? Could this work teaming up with an affiliate based outside your state and redirecting your ID through their ID?</p>]]>
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    <published>2010-03-10T07:31:51Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2010:/start//7.18621-comment:195654</id>
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    <title>Comment from Chris Cameron on 2010-03-10</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>I did hear about a guy in North Carolina who lived near a border and changed the mailing address of his affiliate account to a P.O. Box in South Carolina, and that worked for him. </p>]]>
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    <published>2010-03-10T09:01:55Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2010:/start//7.18621-comment:195745</id>
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    <title>Comment from Rich on 2010-03-10</title>
    <author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>The voracious appetite of tax and spend legislators has associated costs (often unforseen by career politicians and with unintended consequences). Its only natural for-profit businesses seek the most favorable profit situation. I would guess these CO businesses are spending some portion of their earnings within the state of CO that will no longer be available as the source of income is now cut-off?  Perhaps if more legislators had work experience in the private sector, or better yet ran/run their own private sector business (excluding lobbying and political consulting perhaps) they would understand basic economics, capitalism and free markets better, and legislate accordingly? Microeconomics anyone? Impact on macroeconomics?</p>

<p>Taxation with questionable representation? No thanks.</p>]]>
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    <published>2010-03-10T15:55:41Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2010:/start//7.18621-comment:196538</id>
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    <title>Comment from Diana Hsieh on 2010-03-13</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>FYI: If you've moved to another state from Colorado, you can call the Amazon Affiliates at 800 372 8066 to update and unlock your account.</p>

<p>The tax-happy left seems determined to blame Amazon for terminating the Colorado Associates, when the Democratic legislature is clearly to blame.</p>

<p>Readers might be interested in my new super-quick web site: </p>

<p><a href="http://www.RepealTheAmazonTax.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.RepealTheAmazonTax.com/</a></p>

<p>If you want to help pressure the Colorado legislature to repeal this awful law, please join the low-volume e-mail list, NoAmazonTax:</p>

<p><a href="http://groups.google.com/group/noamazontax" rel="nofollow">http://groups.google.com/group/noamazontax</a></p>

<p>Please spread the word!  Thanks!</p>]]>
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    <published>2010-03-13T18:15:21Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Rich A on 2010-04-15</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>I was unable to sign up as an affiliate with Amazon because I live in NC.</p>

<p>Although I was mad at NC's legislators about this, I also fail to see why Amazon should have a tax advantage over retailers like Barnes & Noble.</p>

<p>At one time online businesses like Amazon seemed fragile and in need of every possible advantage to get off the ground, but now the shoe is on the other foot. It seems possible Amazon could eventually drive B&N out of business by undercutting them.</p>]]>
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    <published>2010-04-15T17:47:59Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from ohm on 2010-05-16</title>
    <author>
        <name>ohm</name>
        <uri></uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>You should know about Georgism</p>

<p>From Wikipedia. Georgism, named after Henry George (1839-1897), is a philosophy and economic ideology that holds that everyone owns what they create, but that everything found in nature, most importantly land, belongs equally to all of humanity. The Georgist philosophy is usually associated with the idea of a single tax on the value of land. Georgists argue that a tax on land value is efficient, fair and equitable, and will accrue sufficient revenue so that other taxes (which are less fair and efficient, also Internet sale tax too ) can be reduced or eliminated.<br />
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    <published>2010-05-16T08:19:27Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2010:/start//7.18621-comment:240105</id>
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    <title>Comment from Settlement Loan on 2010-08-30</title>
    <author>
        <name>Settlement Loan</name>
        <uri>http://www.anylawsuits.com/</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>If affiliates participate in the local marketing game, why they don't pay the state sales tax just like the local ones?Amazon is escaping from a fair marketing and pursues more benefits by tax evasion.</p>]]>
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    <published>2010-08-31T06:52:04Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from William on 2010-10-06</title>
    <author>
        <name>William</name>
        <uri>http://www.perfumehypermart.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>These things always happens. What do you super affiliates do when these comes in effect. Simply packed up, load up your truck and drive to the next state and get started again. Cheers.</p>]]>
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    <published>2010-10-06T15:22:00Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from wn7ant.myopenid.com on 2010-11-12</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Comments about tax evasion are baloney.  Reality is that a retailer has found an efficient method for selling and shipping a product to a person.  They are located in a particular state.  They are paying taxes to that state.  Therefore they are paying state taxes.  Taxation without representation is collecting taxes from the retailer in a state they are NOT located in.</p>

<p>The whining about, "they need to be put on a "level" playing field, wah wah."  More BS.  Amazon went out on a limb.  Barnes and Noble or any other retailer could have done what Amazon did, and chose not to.  If Amazon had failed, how many people would be saying, "we need to tax Barnes and Noble because Amazon is failing?"  That is lunacy, idiocy, stupidity.</p>

<p>The SAME is true of, "we need to tax Amazon because they are being successful, and some other retailer isn't doing as well."  Tough, that's the game of business.  Don't penalize businesses that do well.  These legislators are to blame, period.  Thoughtlessness is to blame.</p>

<p>Good for Amazon.  Close up shop.  Move to less expensive locations.  I DON'T WANT TO PAY MORE.  If Amazon was charged more, I would pay more for my products.  NO! I don't want to do that.</p>]]>
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    <published>2010-11-12T18:57:10Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from joeparera on 2011-01-05</title>
    <author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Its only natural for-profit businesses seek the most favorable profit situation.The states that hold out against inexorable tax hikes are going to reap the benefits,through more income taxes from affiliates, or just companies locating in their states.I was mad at NC&#39;s legislators about this, I also fail to see why Amazon should have a tax advantage over retailers like Barnes &amp; Noble.<br /><br /><a href="http://thebrokeraffiliate.com/" rel="nofollow">Tax Settlement Affiliate</a></p>]]>
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    <published>2011-01-06T05:36:40Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from joeparera on 2011-01-05</title>
    <author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Its only natural for-profit businesses seek the most favorable profit situation.The states that hold out against inexorable tax hikes are going to reap the benefits,through more income taxes from affiliates, or just companies locating in their states.I was mad at NC&#39;s legislators about this, I also fail to see why Amazon should have a tax advantage over retailers like Barnes &amp; Noble.<br /><br /><a href="http://thebrokeraffiliate.com/" rel="nofollow">Tax Settlement Affiliate</a></p>]]>
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    <published>2011-01-06T05:36:52Z</published>
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